andreu (12:01:57): Hello Everybody gene_gaines (12:02:02): Hi adolfovazquezrodriguez (12:02:05): hi isocdavid (12:02:08): Hello hpditt2 (12:02:15): Hello andreu (12:02:59): Up the moment we're connected from andreu (12:03:02): Germany andreu (12:03:04): Washington andreu (12:03:09): Stanford (Palo Alto, CA) andreu (12:03:12): Madrid Spain andreu (12:03:27): Gene will be our "moderator" andreu (12:03:35): The goals for today are andreu (12:03:39): to test the tools andreu (12:03:45): and to introduce ourselves andreu (12:03:56): ---------8<-------------------- isocdavid (12:04:25): Andreu and all I am happy to be involved but do not today have a mike nor headset with me today but happy to be involved in this test isocdavid (12:05:24): I am David McAuley and serve as membership Director at ISOC andreu (12:05:58): Great, David is talking to us from Virginia ? andreu (12:06:02): Dont you ? hpditt2 (12:06:06): I am Hans Peter Dittler, one of the borad members of ISC isocdavid (12:06:09): Yes, in Reston adolfovazquezrodriguez (12:06:23): My name is Adolfo Vázquez, I am a member of ISOC Spain Board andreu (12:06:53): My name is Andreu Veà co-founder of ISOC-CAT (catalonia) and now hpditt2 (12:06:58): I am Hans Peter Dittler, one of the board members of ISOC Germany (sorry fast return on first try...) andreu (12:07:02): VP of ISOC spain gene_gaines (12:07:04): I am Gene Gaines, talking from Sterling, Virginia US, maybe 8 km from David McAuley andreu (12:07:42): Let me tell you that Rosa Delgado has excused her presence andreu (12:07:51): And ISOC-CAT and ISOC-LA andreu (12:07:54): will join later andreu (12:08:08): Veni said will try too. gene_gaines (12:08:23): A suggestion... so we not text running over each other, suggest you type OVER if you are doing more than one simple line ? andreu (12:08:35): ok adolfovazquezrodriguez (12:08:39): ok isocdavid (12:08:57): Andrue, as I learn this I am yet unable to see how I invite folks. Could you kindly invite Jim Galvin - his id is 'elistx' Thanks, David andreu (12:09:16): for sure gene_gaines (12:09:21): Perhaps we can begin with short introductions. Perhaps Hans Dittler would like to text a few words first OVER andreu (12:09:23): He didn't told me that OVER hpditt2 (12:10:26): OK - lets start introduction: elistx (12:10:52): Hi, Jim here. :) isocdavid (12:10:56): Welcome Jim adolfovazquezrodriguez (12:11:04): Welcome andreu (12:11:24): I'll add more people to the conference while they arrive gene_gaines (12:11:38): Hi Jim good to see (text) you. OVER elistx (12:11:43): Are we just text or is there any voice? isocdavid (12:11:48): Gene, I have a question. I am assuming that most on the chat are using mikes and speaking - is that correct? hpditt2 (12:11:49): My name is Hans Peter Dittler, working in the Internet area for more than twenty years now, I was a founding member of ISOC in Germany in 1993 and joined ISOC international 95 andreu (12:11:51): By the moment text-only isocdavid (12:12:31): I just saw Hans out in Minneapolis - it was great to see you hpditt2 (12:12:31): My main interest is still technical - just ruturned from the IETF gene_gaines (12:12:32): David, no, for today, I suggest we text only. Then each of us can gene_gaines (12:12:43): test voice and add later for another meet OVER hpditt2 (12:12:51): I think thats enough for now OVER isocdavid (12:13:11): Gene - thanks. I actually jusy heard Jim, I believe ask if anyone heard him - I did but do not have my mike with me andreu (12:13:17): Great introduction Hans. elistx (12:13:53): I don't have a web cam but I'll bet that's pretty cool! andreu (12:14:06): You can watch Hans and me elistx (12:14:11): Does everyone hear when you talk? isocdavid (12:14:20): I heard you andreu (12:14:27): :-) andreu (12:14:34): Wait wait...is only text. hpditt2 (12:14:34): The sound what I receive is were noisy and hard to understand Over elistx (12:14:35): I think I got a few replies but they came out over top of each other. isocdavid (12:14:40): I heard you Gene andreu (12:14:45): You can have sound if you're on the list of each other OVER isocdavid (12:15:13): And I hear Jim who is not on my list andreu (12:15:34): If you want VOICE I strongly suggest to use www.skype.com (my alias is PEDRUSK there) hpditt2 (12:15:42): I can here Gene and Jim Over gene_gaines (12:16:02): Jim Galvin is "elistx" andreu (12:16:11): Andreu is "Andreu" andreu (12:16:19): Hans is HPDITT2 isocdavid (12:16:24): Good suggestion - as this is a test I sense this is as expected but I certainly think this has great promise for synchronous meetings hpditt2 (12:16:26): Sorry - skype only if I really must - I would prefer any SIP-Mode phone like X-TEN OVER gene_gaines (12:16:26): Perhaps we use only text today. And Gene is Gene elistx (12:16:32): Yeah, I'm using an old Yahoo ID. Surely there is a way to set the display name. Anybody know it? andreu (12:16:42): Gene is gene_gaines elistx (12:17:36): Cool, I now see Andreu! andreu (12:17:40): Adolfo-Spain is adolfovazquezrodriguez adolfovazquezrodriguez (12:17:50): My name is Adolfo Vázquez, I have worked on Internet since 1997 (digital journalism, freelance on IDG Group, Research Analyst on IDC). Now I work on WiWiW (Who is Who in the Internet World), group which is lead by Andreu (andreu) andreu (12:17:54): And David is isocdavid andreu (12:18:12): Please, introduce all these "ID" andreu (12:18:16): to your own lists isocdavid (12:18:19): Thank you Andreu andreu (12:18:26): so you will be able to andreu (12:18:32): watch Hans and me andreu (12:18:42): Pressing the button "Webcam" andreu (12:18:54): I placed a clock andreu (12:19:10): behind me, so you can know what's the time in California :-) andreu (12:23:39): Sorry I've had a problem in my computer elistx (12:23:46): Ah, the conference without voice and webcam. andreu (12:23:47): New thing learnt andreu (12:24:03): If the person who invites fail... elistx (12:24:05): Shall we sign off the other conference? andreu (12:24:07): the conference is over isocdavid (12:24:24): I actually see this and the other gene_gaines (12:24:36): This is Gene. gene_gaines (12:24:52): I will try dropping other conference. hpditt2 (12:24:57): I see both conferences now - perhaps I should invite Andreu back to the first??? andreu (12:24:58): OK here I'm again andreu (12:25:04): Yep gene_gaines (12:25:07): test andreu (12:25:08): Adolfo already invited me isocdavid (12:25:11): Hans - I see both as well andreu (12:25:16): sign off from this second andreu (12:25:17): sorry andreu (12:25:27): over & out elistx (12:25:44): so which conference are we in? andreu (12:25:52): This one andreu (12:26:09): Sorry I lost the other, thought you too, and invited to a new one. hpditt2 (12:26:22): On my side I get and indication when somebody wants viewing and I have to allow it for each user seperately - below my outgoing picture I see only the number of viewers Over elistx (12:26:49): Is Gene back? isocdavid (12:27:02): I see - no we kept on going over here and then many of us were in both andreu (12:28:11): Hans if you go to your camera window (Menu Webcam | Who's Watching me) you will know who are watching you. elistx (12:29:19): Can Andreu invite Gene back. It seems that only the host can invite people. andreu (12:29:38): Yse andreu (12:29:45): he's already invited again elistx (12:30:01): At least it will not let me invite him. Is that a setting of some sort to let others invite people? elistx (12:30:33): Well, do we declare success on this event or is there another test? andreu (12:31:06): The idea is to see and get used to this andreu (12:31:20): so we'll have a meeting with Fred Baker isocdavid (12:31:26): I think this is good and we will get used to it - and i am grateful to Andreu for leading this effort andreu (12:31:32): on March the 29th at the same hour elistx (12:31:36): Yes. Me too. andreu (12:31:44): to talk about his Tsunami alert network andreu (12:31:51): OVER hpditt2 (12:32:00): Should be OK for me elistx (12:32:01): I have never used Yahoo messenger but this worked out real well. I like the voice and web cam option. Very cool. andreu (12:32:45): Yes, and you've many other features isocdavid (12:32:50): So it looks like we are set then for the 29th at same hour with fred (29th of March - is that right)? andreu (12:32:54): that now I see disabled, cause we're in a conference. andreu (12:33:09): But when you're one-on-one is incredible. andreu (12:33:19): Exactly andreu (12:33:43): We postponed from 23 to the 29 andreu (12:33:49): for Semana Santa (Holy Week) andreu (12:34:07): I have the personal commitment of Fred andreu (12:34:18): to assist. Yesterday he said he was able to make it. isocdavid (12:34:31): That's great. andreu (12:35:12): Well let me introduce myself andreu (12:35:54): I'm Andreu Veà, and started profesionally working on the internet in 1992. In Barcelona (Spain). I started the 4th spanish ISP elistx (12:35:55): Andreu, let me thank you for getting this off the ground. If this works well with Fred we will be all set to do it again, on a regular basis. andreu (12:36:20): (YEP, this is my idea Jim) andreu (12:36:38): and in 1998 I was recruited by RETEVISION (Auna) to open elistx (12:36:42): Folks, I need to go now but I will be back on the 29th! andreu (12:36:58): the competency, agains Telefonica the incumbent monopoly. andreu (12:37:25): Due I can't invite again to Gene to this conference andreu (12:37:48): (it appears as if he was here already) lets switch to the other isocdavid (12:37:57): OK adolfovazquezrodriguez (12:38:03): ok ----------8<-------------- Problem encountered: When a user losts his connection, sometimes still appears in the conference list. So the host, can’t force to sign him off. And then can’t be invited again, due is already on the list of active people. This little bug will be reported to Yahoo. Conference Started by Gene-Gaines elistx (12:37:17): Gene, new conference? elistx (12:37:25): Or just testing? hpditt2 (12:37:39): Is this a "secret" conversation or just a test? gene_gaines (12:37:53): I having trouble joining your conference ... andreu (12:38:10): No no andreu (12:38:13): is not "secret" :-) gene_gaines (12:38:15): please don't close your old conference yet ... Andrea elistx (12:38:15): Andreu says he invited you. You do show on the attendee list, although its dim on my list. andreu (12:38:19): is just that he has problems elistx (12:38:52): Anyway, I need to go. Bye for now. This is great stuff! gene_gaines (12:39:09): Andreau, you tell us what to do. I seem not to receive invite from you. Sorry, andreu (12:39:20): ok Gene andreu (12:39:25): let me invite Adolfo gene_gaines (12:39:25): make sense for everyone to come here maybe, your choice OVER andreu (12:39:35): cause you haven't invite him :-) to this new one andreu (12:39:49): I ask everybody to switch to this new one gene_gaines (12:40:15): Hey ... sorry I had problem. isocdavid (12:40:29): No problem - that is what a test is for andreu (12:40:39): Gene is again with us andreu (12:40:47): And now another person entered andreu (12:40:53): is Andres Oliva from ISOC-CAT adolfovazquezrodriguez (12:41:08): welcome Andres hpditt2 (12:41:15): This conference has no audio enabled - or am I missing something? gene_gaines (12:41:47): Is always painful to get started with this, but after we develop some practices, we can do very well .. takes a while and some confusion gene_gaines (12:42:10): Hey, not everyone has audio today, so maybe we just text for today. andreu (12:42:17): YES landresol (12:42:40): I just drop to say hi, I will try to be in the next meeting. Thanks to Andreu for this initiative. Bye bye! gene_gaines (12:42:54): Perhaps we go back to quick introductions? andreu (12:43:21): Hello and bye Andres !!! (he's from ISOC-CAT Barcelona) andreu (12:43:38): OK andreu (12:43:53): Let's do something to improve andreu (12:44:00): Each of you andreu (12:44:09): should "Add a new Contact" andreu (12:44:20): to your own lists to all the others andreu (12:44:28): Let me provide you the list again andreu (12:46:04): I personally wellcome to Sebastian from ISOC France gene_gaines (12:47:25): Welcome Sebastian andreu (12:47:45): Perfect he joined already andreu (12:47:51): Let me provide the list as I promised isocdavid (12:47:58): Andreu I will need to expand my own messenger list before I can do that and add their messenger contacts - as this goes forward I expect to do that adolfovazquezrodriguez (12:48:06): Welcome Sebastian andreu (12:48:30): Sbacholl Sebastian Bachollet ISOC-FR sbacholl andreu (12:49:17): Adolfo Vazquez ISOC-ES adolfovazquezrodriguez andreu (12:49:31): Gene Gaines ISOC-Washington gene_gaines andreu (12:51:27): Hans ISOC-DE hpditt2 andreu (12:51:39): Jim Galvin ISOC-HQ elistx gene_gaines (12:52:12): Hans ISOC-DE hpditt2 is Hans Peter Ditter ruudisoc (12:52:36): hi everybody ... rudi from isoc belgium here andreu (12:52:53): A new one has joined right now isocdavid (12:52:54): Hi Rudi andreu (12:53:29): Rudi can you introduce yourself ? (briefly?) adolfovazquezrodriguez (12:53:42): Welcome Rudi, Adolfo Vázquez from ISOC ES andreu (12:54:00): Andreu Veà "ANDREU" ISOC-ES (now at Stanford, CA) andreu (12:54:32): David McAuley isocdavid ruudisoc (12:54:35): well, I'm the chair of ISOC Belgium since 2000. We have been growing the last months with several members a month, even paying members ruudisoc (12:54:49): Rudi Vansnick - ISOC Belgium (sorry) andreu (12:54:54): thanks :-) isocdavid (12:56:01): Andreu - I may have to drop off soon. I like this and look forward to meeting with Fred on the 29th. Are you arranging that meeting andreu (12:56:12): Yes I'll andreu (12:56:24): The idea is to have one "monographic" meeting per month andreu (12:56:36): Always the 15th gene_gaines (12:56:46): We were going to do short intros of each person. andreu (12:56:47): with the exception of the next one ruudisoc (12:56:52): for those who like to have a "written overview", I can deliver a forum in the coming days. andreu (12:57:04): which will be on the 29 (due Fred wasn't able to make it) ruudisoc (12:57:06): Such is also done for ISOC-ECC gene_gaines (12:57:07): Perhaps we do intros by email or blog? andreu (12:57:31): I've a suggestion gene_gaines (12:57:37): Go andreu (12:57:53): Let's write a less than 10 lines paragraf andreu (12:57:58): about us andreu (12:58:06): With a little picture andreu (12:58:17): If you send it to me I'll add to a web page andreu (12:58:24): where we can read before the meeting gene_gaines (12:58:25): Excellent andreu (12:58:35): The pic is important isocdavid (12:58:39): Great offer - thanks andreu (12:58:40): so we can see andreu (12:58:44): who are we talking with. andreu (12:59:02): Then Rudi will create the Forum hpditt2 (12:59:04): Sounds great for me andreu (12:59:05): for the meetings gene_gaines (12:59:15): May I quickly raise two issues before we quit Quickly? isocdavid (12:59:22): OK andreu (12:59:27): Yes go ahead ruudisoc (12:59:37): oke, i'll prepare the forum tomorrow, so we could elaborate it as things are rolling on gene_gaines (12:59:40): OK,,, give me a few lines to do so. andreu (13:00:20): Great Rudi andreu (13:00:53): you can contact me at andreu@veabaro.info or andreu@stanford.edu gene_gaines (13:01:12): 1) Appreciation evening for Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn. Will be May 10 or 11 in Washington DC. Waiting for confirmation, but looks like we can hold at the Library of Congress, across street from U.S. Capitol, will cooperation of some ruudisoc (13:01:20): could we already define a few categories and topics of discussion ? andreu (13:01:45): Rudi, the idea is that every month we'll have a topic andreu (13:01:48): of discussion. andreu (13:01:58): March : The Tsunami alert network andreu (13:02:09): and we'll try to bring "guest stars" :-) ruudisoc (13:02:12): ok ... so the topic will be created before the discussion day andreu (13:02:15): this case Fred Baker andreu (13:02:25): (confirmed already ont the 29th) gene_gaines (13:02:31): very good organizations and particularly several senators long associated with the Internet. QUESTION. Will all chapter join in. Are these plans good? andreu (13:02:33): Exactly ruudisoc (13:02:36): allright ruudisoc (13:03:18): in the forum we could promote this "chat"-environment ruudisoc (13:03:34): and mention it on the monthly newsletter of ISOC hpditt2 (13:03:51): What do you mean with join in? Fly over? Listen via Web-radio? Send best wishes? andreu (13:03:52): This was exactly my idea. adolfovazquezrodriguez (13:04:08): Gene, how can we help or participate on that event? andreu (13:04:11): Adolfo (Madrid) is going to do a executive briefing of this meeting ruudisoc (13:04:13): fine andreu ... let's do it gene_gaines (13:06:11): Cerf-Kahn event. The Washington DC chapter can organize, and will look to you people to organize chapters to send email congratulations -- and I hope we will be able to hook up a webcast, I hope 2-way. Question, is this going in a good direction for everyone? andreu (13:06:37): Yes is a great idea for us andreu (13:06:44): and we look forward to contribute. ruudisoc (13:06:45): Could we sent some voice-emails too ? ruudisoc (13:07:31): Can we eventually organise some greeting card by each chapter, signed by the chaptermembers ? gene_gaines (13:07:38): I see the event as WEB based, want to emphasize and dramatize that during the meeting, but I expect we will have 200 - 300 people from the Washington DC area who will want to attend. andreu (13:07:42): That would be an excellent idea andreu (13:07:48): A multimedia virtual card... hpditt2 (13:07:51): Sounds good for me, with tthe webcast the time-difference will be problematic for Europe, you will not find too many listeners after midnight here..... gene_gaines (13:08:00): As to greeting, give us a few weeks to organize. adolfovazquezrodriguez (13:08:03): Gene, if possible a streaming video of the event would be nice gene_gaines (13:08:20): Time difference .. that is why in addition to streaming video, I want to gene_gaines (13:08:50): have greetings received and pre-stored here to avoid time zone or network outage problems. gene_gaines (13:09:32): Of, course greeting from a few people via video or videoconference will be good also. andreu (13:10:05): I personally welcome Justo Hidalgo andreu (13:10:11): from ISOC-ES (Madrid) gene_gaines (13:10:19): It is interesting. 10 years ago, the Library of Congress was all paper. Not it is everything possible via e and Internet. gene_gaines (13:10:27): Welcome Justo justohidalgo (13:10:39): Hello all. I am Justo Hidalgo, from Spain. I am sorry that I could not join to this meeting. I just wanted to say hi. ruudisoc (13:10:39): Hi Justo isocdavid (13:10:45): Hello Justo andreu (13:10:48): (in this moment we're 8 people) andreu (13:11:19): from madrid (2) washington (2) germany, belgium france and california andreu (13:11:42): I considere this test as a Great Success isocdavid (13:11:53): I agree gene_gaines (13:12:22): Question. Do ideas I just outlined -- they OK? Anyone want to change? I promise that every decision will be made only after checking with people here. Note that I see this as a Chapters getting together project, but of course we will invite Hq also.:) andreu (13:12:25): 4 people are watching at the same time my camera andreu (13:12:43): generous you're :-) andreu (13:12:47): gene ruudisoc (13:12:58): I was not able to sign in earlier, I'm recovering from a havy flue attack with 4 days above 39,5 degrees feever gene_gaines (13:13:16): Sorry Rudi andreu (13:13:16): wow... andreu (13:13:31): Then I congratulate you more for being here tonight isocdavid (13:13:41): Rudi - I think beer is good for that ruudisoc (13:13:42): (nice looking man andreu, isn't hé) ruudisoc (13:14:00): was even not able to eat ... started eating today again gene_gaines (13:14:10): I want to thank everyone from my heart, make me feel very good about investing my time in ISOC chapters. ruudisoc (13:14:23): had a good meeting this noon, where we discussed a new event in may for ISOC Belgium hpditt2 (13:14:27): Then perhaps it is a good thing not use the webcam ..... ruudisoc (13:14:42): a full day congress,seminar and workshops on web accessibility gene_gaines (13:14:51): I not want to raise my second question, then I will be quiet. May I speak (text)? ruudisoc (13:15:09): in 3 groups, for every internetter, for the SME's and for the government andreu (13:15:40): Yes go ahead Gene andreu (13:16:04): Hi finally Sebastian...from France, welcome sbacholl (13:16:16): hello gene_gaines (13:16:17): SECOND issue... andreu (13:16:28): Everybody: Add "sbacholl" to your contact list andreu (13:16:32): please. ruudisoc (13:16:44): done gene_gaines (13:17:51): I want to raise the question of WIPO developing countries meeting problems. Many NGOs and actually many delegations from developing countries are being shut out and not permitted in these meetings. I will send background to chapter-delegates list. But one question to David McAuely...; gene_gaines (13:18:36): David, Could you find out if ISOC is a permanently registered to the WIPO emerging countries series of meeting, or will they be shut out also? andreu (13:19:09): gene define WIPO acronym for everybody gene_gaines (13:19:18): I will send a background email to the chapter-delegates list on this subject, but I am done and will be quiet now isocdavid (13:19:38): I will have to check on it. I did forward your note about this to Lynn's direct reports which include Mike Nelson and Lyman Chapin as they look toward policy more than I. I will check on thsi question and reply later to you adolfovazquezrodriguez (13:19:42): www.wipo.int gene_gaines (13:19:45): WIPO - World Intellectual Property Organization. However, then have been given andreu (13:20:10): Sebastian, can you introduce (briefly) yourself andreu (13:20:18): and your contribution to ISOC/internet? andreu (13:20:22): (france) andreu (13:21:25): sebastian, you there ? sbacholl (13:21:32): Sébastien Bachollet Président of the French Chapter and organiser of EGENI (one day event each year) gene_gaines (13:21:53): some authority over setting UN, other organizations not only for property rights but also on the agenda for developing countries and aspects of Internet, access, communications, etc. IMPORTANT! This organization is being heavily solicited by major companies, power lobbyists, etc. hpditt2 (13:23:11): Sorry - I have to leave in about 10 minutes - are there any more items on the agenda for tonight (or today)? andreu (13:23:48): OK Hans isocdavid (13:23:49): I too must leave shortly gene_gaines (13:23:57): Thanks to everyone. andreu (13:24:10): Well the idea today was to test this in real-time with andreu (13:24:17): as many people possible. ruudisoc (13:24:17): Whish everyone a very good night andreu (13:24:37): Before leaving: andreu (13:24:44): lets do a quick round ruudisoc (13:24:45): is really a succes andreu gene_gaines (13:24:46): Andreau makes a VERY GOOD organizer, thank you Andreau andreu (13:24:53): :-) andreu (13:25:25): (andreu in catalan, andrew english, andros greek, andrei russian, andrea italian, andré french,...but not Andreau :-)) ) gene_gaines (13:25:31): And you clock behind your smiling face says 13:31, time to quit andreu (13:25:39): OK andreu (13:25:54): In the most concurrence moment we were 10 people gene_gaines (13:26:00): I hit wrong key .. 12_26 Bad me. isocdavid (13:26:01): Thank you all and especially Andreu - this was a success as I see it andreu (13:26:06): from europe and america at the same time andreu (13:26:25): The idea is to get familiarized with this tool gene_gaines (13:26:31): And I took 5 phone calls andreu (13:26:33): And to make it easy to meet each month andreu (13:26:36): same day same time andreu (13:26:53): Question: to the attendees ruudisoc (13:26:56): we do this once a week with a few members in belgium andreu (13:26:58): to this meetings andreu (13:27:02): Is the time good for you ? adolfovazquezrodriguez (13:27:14): yes, Madrid (Spain), GMT+1 ruudisoc (13:27:20): is the only way we can discuss hot topics to bring to the attention of politicians andreu (13:27:23): perfect rudi, sure you'll contribute a lot isocdavid (13:27:31): This time is good for me but we might want to ask Chapter delegates and maybe rotate around the clock every month andreu (13:27:42): YES hpditt2 (13:27:56): The time is OK , the text mode is perfect, the video looks OK, I really would like to have voice in addition to it - than its perfect ruudisoc (13:27:57): fine for me andreu (13:28:05): Irwan Effendi (Indonesia) said he was going to attend but not finally. andreu (13:28:16): Hans andreu (13:28:27): As far as I do my weekly group meetings andreu (13:28:39): with my WiWiW (Who is Who in the Internet) team adolfovazquezrodriguez (13:28:42): this hour doesn't work for people from India to Pacific andreu (13:28:43): http://wiwiw.org andreu (13:28:47): we use Skype andreu (13:28:57): but only allows 5 people simultaneous ruudisoc (13:29:04): skype is good for me too ... andreu (13:29:12): And you complained about was not a SIP app andreu (13:29:19): Can you suggest any other better ? andreu (13:29:25): or more "open" ? andreu (13:29:34): (not proprietary) ? adolfovazquezrodriguez (13:29:37): maybe jabber, gaim adolfovazquezrodriguez (13:29:40): but Yahoo is ok andreu (13:29:41): Hi Mike Todd from LA !!! ruudisoc (13:30:01): if we want to use voice, then it will slow down the communication between all of us in this chat environment gene_gaines (13:30:17): Hi Mike Todd ... we near end .. I can email you a text capture of most of the meeting. miketodd2002 (13:30:18): Hi. Sorry, I was on the phone with my back to this portable. I'm here... andreu (13:30:33): We normally use the text via yahoo, and then voice via Skype andreu (13:30:43): at the same time and its a perfect combination. miketodd2002 (13:30:46): Did we do much more than introductions? andreu (13:31:01): We're in conclusions :-) miketodd2002 (13:31:10): Thanks. andreu (13:31:12): Mike, we have introduced ourselves andreu (13:31:26): Can you quickly introduce yourself...despite andreu (13:31:32): many of us we know you already :-) andreu (13:31:33): ? hpditt2 (13:31:36): We are using a voice-conferencing server here for the board-meetings over the phone, this server can be accessed from any IP-phone or from normal telefone lines but this is not free, I am testing a free solution based on linux/asterisk - perhaps ready in 4 to 8 weeks miketodd2002 (13:32:01): Quickly - President ISOC Los Angeles Chaper and former VP Membership ISOC. No other claims. andreu (13:32:33): Great Mike ruudisoc (13:32:38): i'll check with one of my board members, if for europe we would have same solutions possible. perhaps we could the interconnect them ? gene_gaines (13:32:40): [Mike knows much of the history of ISOC and chapters, can tell us much about how and why things evolved. andreu (13:32:47): Hans I have a Cisco IP phone 7905 at home miketodd2002 (13:32:55): I look forward to the transcript to find out who I nearly missed. andreu (13:32:56): can we test it as a solution ? andreu (13:33:14): Mike we agreed to send me less than 10 lines ruudisoc (13:33:15): I can'nt see Mike in the list here ? is this normal ? andreu (13:33:19): with your resume and andreu (13:33:29): picture andreu (13:33:37): so I'll start a directory gene_gaines (13:33:44): Mike is miketoddd2002, I see his lines. isocdavid (13:33:50): My thanks again to all and I have to drop away now. I ilke this Andreu - thanks:) andreu (13:33:56): of ISOC-chapter-delegates realtimers... andreu (13:34:04): OK bye David ruudisoc (13:34:05): bye David andreu (13:34:12): you'll receive the andreu (13:34:18): minutes :-) andreu (13:34:55): Is normal, cause today you don't have still all the people andreu (13:34:57): in your list andreu (13:35:13): So you don't see them andreu (13:35:16): But when you send me andreu (13:35:53): your resume and pic I'll send you back andreu (13:36:02): the list with all the aliases hpditt2 (13:36:12): Bye - I have to leave now, I send you some information about my tests with asterisk via direct mail - the CISCO should work fine, if you like you can call me directly on it via 5559215@sipgate.de andreu (13:36:16): (yahoo IDs) adolfovazquezrodriguez (13:36:19): Bye Hans andreu (13:36:44): Bye Hans andreu (13:36:49): thanks a lot for your participation hpditt2 (13:36:54): see you next time gene_gaines (13:37:02): Thank, Hans andreu (13:37:03): I've been watching you all the time andreu (13:37:13): In an incredible quality. adolfovazquezrodriguez (13:37:25): I have to leave too, I will see you again at 29th March meeting, bye ruudisoc (13:37:28): OK, my resume will be sent to your emailaddress andreu (13:37:34): Perfect andreu (13:37:41): my address is andreu@veabaro.info ruudisoc (13:37:49): bey Adolfo andreu (13:37:51): remember to attach a picture miketodd2002 (13:37:57): I'll send my info and picture to Andreu and look forward to the transcript. gene_gaines (13:38:01): Good meeting, good work, good work to do. Gene Gaines andreu (13:38:02): Bye Adolfo see you on thursday meeting sbacholl (13:38:27): bye now also for me andreu (13:38:35): Bye Sebastian andreu (13:38:42): nice to know you and see you here andreu (13:38:48): Remember march 29th miketodd2002 (13:38:51): What time Thursday? My Thursday and Friday are almost completely blasted this week andreu (13:38:51): same time andreu (13:39:02): sorry sorry ruudisoc (13:39:03): are pictures not to dangereous ? could afraid some people :) andreu (13:39:11): I said thursday only to Adolfo andreu (13:39:15): :-)) ruudisoc (13:39:18): bye sebastian andreu (13:39:27): Rudi =)) andreu (13:39:39): Well that only depends on you ruudisoc (13:39:50): ok, i'll sent the best one only then .... andreu (13:39:52): and on your personal image consultant. andreu (13:40:12): OK folks andreu (13:40:17): Europe is going to bed... gene_gaines (13:40:31): Goodbye, and Andreau, good job ruudisoc (13:40:32): oh now ... i'm just starting ... ;-) andreu (13:40:33): We have had an interesting chat for 1hour and 40 minutes miketodd2002 (13:40:38): I'll say Bye too. andreu (13:40:44): Bye Mike andreu (13:40:52): did you check if you can see andreu (13:40:54): my cam ? miketodd2002 (13:41:04): good job! ruudisoc (13:41:13): yes of course, what do you think I'm looking at ? ;-) andreu (13:41:32): no no...that was for Mike, I know your spying...me :-) ruudisoc (13:41:44): so I don't have to look at my watch ! andreu (13:41:59): Well that has been a "last minute idea" andreu (13:42:09): useful to know that I've to go to have lunch andreu (13:42:15): I'm starving. ruudisoc (13:42:36): have a nice lunch and hope to see you perhaps tomorrow again here andreu (13:42:57): A view from Palo Alto miketodd2002 (13:43:00): I don't know if I have camera view capability. It's not on menu. ruudisoc (13:43:20): terrific wheater ... hope to have that here in belgium soon andreu (13:43:23): What do you mean Rudi ? andreu (13:43:29): :-) true andreu (13:43:38): we go with only shirt ruudisoc (13:43:58): it has been cold here, but they announced 18 degrees for thursday ruudisoc (13:44:04): 20 for the weekend andreu (13:44:18): That's good ! andreu (13:44:22): are you in Brussels ? ruudisoc (13:44:38): close to ....in Ghent ... some 56km from brussels andreu (13:44:53): nice place, but a little cloudy for my "taste" :-) andreu (13:45:03): I'm from Barcelona (Spain)...the mediterranean... andreu (13:45:22): and now I'm enjoying a "pacific weather" ruudisoc (13:45:25): thursday i've a full day congress in brussel .... 2nd Government congress with all top politicians ruudisoc (13:45:46): I was in Barcelona in 2004 in May andreu (13:45:48): Oh sorry, I said Thursday andreu (13:45:54): Were you ? andreu (13:46:02): I was in the organizing commitee ruudisoc (13:46:02): Inet2004, we met eachother there ruudisoc (13:46:11): of course andreu (13:46:12): as president of ISOC-CAT ruudisoc (13:46:26): i was the chair of the election committee andreu (13:46:12): After 1 hour and 46 minutes we CLOSE the session and chat testing.