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<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Frank,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>The misunderstandings are not limited to the
Board and Officers of ISOC. Their press release may have kicked off the
flurry of discussions but they are by no means the only contributors to
misunderstanding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>It seems we do not all listen adequately to each
other as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Add to that the problems of "flaming" and other
sorts of inappropriate online behaviors and we have the probability of a
perpetual mess.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>If we all step back and attempt to keep a
positive tone on the discussions and resolutions, we will all be a lot better
for the effort. It is not easy but it is the adult thing to
do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Mike Todd<BR>President, Mike Todd Associates - <A
href="http://www.MikeTodd.com">www.MikeTodd.com</A><BR>Supporting the Digital
Coast</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>President, Internet Society Los Angeles Chapter - <A
href="http://www.ISOC-LA.org">www.ISOC-LA.org</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Center for Entrepreneurship and Technology Law<BR>Pepperdine University
School of Law - <A
href="mailto:mltodd@pepperdine.edu">mltodd@pepperdine.edu</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=franck@sopac.org href="mailto:franck@sopac.org">Franck Martin</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com
href="mailto:gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com">Gene Gaines</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=miketodd@miketodd.com
href="mailto:miketodd@miketodd.com">Mike Todd</A> ; <A
title=chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org</A>
; <A title=galvin@elistx.com href="mailto:galvin@elistx.com">James M
Galvin</A> ; <A title=info@linguae.com href="mailto:info@linguae.com">Miguel
Fiallos</A> ; <A title=jeff@warever.com href="mailto:jeff@warever.com">Jeffrey
A. Sherman</A> ; <A title=james@musicforhumans.com
href="mailto:james@musicforhumans.com">James Butler</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:37
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chapter-delegates] next
steps after the board meeting</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I fully agree...<BR><BR>And the total misunderstanding of the
issue by the board is creating a deep schism in chapters members.<BR><BR>Let's
see if James and Lynn are now understanding.<BR><BR>Cheers<BR><BR>Gene Gaines
wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid893117030.20050315060607@gainesgroup.com type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Mike,
Strongly agree with you (below).
Your key points:
'The basic issue is that "Internet is for everyone" dictates
that we are a system of citizens that all deserve a vote.'
Is hard to implement.
But must be done.
Gene
<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com">gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com</A>
On Monday, March 14, 2005, 10:46:43 PM, Mike wrote:
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">James Galvin, David McAuley and other Chapter Delegates,
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">What we have experienced on this list over the past couple of weeks is a
massive misunderstanding and/or lack of effective marketing and/or - well,
you fill in the blanks, chances are we have hit that wall too.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">As a past vice president for membership for the Internet Society I think I
have some knowledge of the history of ISOC Individual Membership.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">James is right when he states that ISOC has always been a membership
organization. Whether it is the institutional members, individual members
or chapter members we talk about there has always been ISOC members.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">While I was VP Membership, I strongly advocated free individual membership
because of so many of the reasons that have been brought up on this list,
recently. The only real stumbling block I was never able to obliterate was
the need to ensure that each individual member had the means to vote and
that there was a way to ensure that individual members could only vote once,
leading to a strong member identification system. Since we live in an
electronic world, electronic means of making and verifying that
identification seems most reasonable.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">I have heard and understand all of the arguments about why this will not
work, why it is not logical, why technology is not a democracy, and on and
on...
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">The basic issue is that "Internet is for everyone" dictates that we are a
system of citizens that all deserve a vote. It implies a political system.
That is hard for us technologists to swallow and brings in issues we would
rather not address, nor have the responsibility to manage. It is also tough
for us to imagine a way to base individual commitment without some kind of
financial commitment but this is one of the biggest barriers to the "global
democracy" of the Internet.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">If there was an easy solution, we would have done it years ago. It is not
easy.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">If the ISOC Board or the ISOC Top Management had done a bit more in terms of
education and marketing before announcing the paid membership program, it
may have been accepted as the reinstatement of a way for Individual Members
to provide voluntary, monetary support to ISOC. It did not have to be
called "Dues" or "Membership". It did not have to be the only way for an
individual member to vote directly for Board members. It did not have to be
presented in such a way that "Global Members" or "Chapter Members" would
feel that they were losing something.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">I have been an Individual Member of ISOC for a long time and will continue
to make that personal commitment. I don't expect everyone in the World to
be able to, or to want to, make that kind of commitment.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">I have been a Chapter Member of ISOC for as long as the Los Angeles Chapter
has been in existence and will continue in that status as long as the Los
Angeles Chapter exists.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">I have not been a direct employee of any Institutional Member of ISOC but I
have provided consulting and other support to many of them and am pleased
that many of them have continued to support ISOC as Institutional Members.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">I am not a member of the IETF but I do try to support the development and
implementation of Internet Standards in every way I can, including taking
every opportunity to promote and protect the open and free development of
the Internet as the only true way to make it available to everyone in the
World.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">My own feelings are that we all have a lot more to agree about than to fight
about. We also have many opportunities to reduce the perceptions of
barriers and to breech the artificial barriers that are blocking our
progress. I guess this is a plea for positive criticism, positive actions,
and a sharing of positive feelings about the good we are all trying to
accomplish.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Mike Todd
President, Mike Todd Associates - <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="http://www.MikeTodd.com">www.MikeTodd.com</A>
Supporting the Digital Coast
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">President, Internet Society Los Angeles Chapter - <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="http://www.ISOC-LA.org">www.ISOC-LA.org</A>
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Center for Entrepreneurship and Technology Law
Pepperdine University School of Law - <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:mltodd@pepperdine.edu">mltodd@pepperdine.edu</A>
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Technology Expert Witness - <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:ExpertWitness@miketodd.com">ExpertWitness@miketodd.com</A>
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">----- Original Message -----
From: "James M Galvin" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:galvin@elistx.com"><galvin@elistx.com></A>
To: <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org"><chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org></A>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:17 PM
Subject: [chapter-delegates] next steps after the board meeting
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Dear Chapter Members,
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">As you know, the ISOC Board met this past Friday and Saturday and they
discussed, in addition to other matters, the recent dissatisfaction that
a number of you have very strongly expressed regarding the new paid
individual membership level. Historically, especially in recent years,
the Board has strongly held the position that there should be a paid
membership level and that this should be a vehicle through which
individual members could have a direct vote in ISOC Trustee elections.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">We summarized your criticism as the following:
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">1. that a paid membership level was in direct conflict with the ethos
that the "Internet is for everyone"
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">2. that the payment level is a barrier to full opportunity around the
world for people to participate
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">3. that we failed to seek your input for this decision
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">...
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Thank you, for your comments and your continued participation in ISOC.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Jim Galvin
David McAuley
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">--
Franck Martin
ICT Specialist
<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:franck@sopac.org">franck@sopac.org</A>
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